<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div><div style="line-height: normal; ">Dear Gift economists, may be of interest...</div><div style="line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="line-height: normal; ">perhaps you would recommend some places / resilient communities you know along some coast or navigable waters, anywhere around the world ?</div>
<div style="line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="line-height: normal; ">-----</div><div style="line-height: normal; "><br></div><div style="line-height: normal; ">I fin<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">d the following initiative of great interest.</span></div>
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<div><font><a href="http://www.couchsurfing.org/people/sailing-the-farm/" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 204)" target="_blank">http://www.couchsurfing.org/people</a><a href="http://www.couchsurfing.org/people/sailing-the-farm/" target="_blank"><font color="#000099">/<span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">sailing</span>-</font></a><a href="http://www.couchsurfing.org/people/sailing-the-farm/" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 204)" target="_blank">the-farm/</a> ; </font></div>
<div>post: <a href="http://www.couchsurfing.org/group_read.html?gid=1173&post=8266944#gpid8266944" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 204)" target="_blank">http://www.couchsurfing.org/group_read.html?gid=1173&post=8266944#gpid8266944</a></div>
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<b><u>They are building a boat, on a farm in Norway.</u></b></div><div style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal"><b><u><span style="font-weight:normal"><b>There is interest in sailing between ecovillages and transition town movements.</b></span></u></b></div>
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It seems to be a culturally diverse (self organized ?) group of people living together and building together.</div><div style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal">
The contact for the project seems to be "Ze".</div><div style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal">I have been exchanging a few emails with her, and wish to share some excerpts below.</div>
<div style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal"><br></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="2"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">It </span></font><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">resonates</span></font><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="2"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"> with some of my own childhood dreams.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="2"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">I personally project parallels with the Hansa ( but with a <a href="http://www.delicious.com/deliciousdante/conviviality" target="_blank">convivial</a> resilient communities <a href="http://bit.ly/gU50GS" target="_blank">(1</a> ; <a href="http://bit.ly/eBWFjy" target="_blank">2 )</a> non/post capitalist framework ? )</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="2"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League</a> </span></font></div>
<div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif">or a league of neo-nomadic <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/phyles-the-new-neonomadic-p2p-business-structure-for-the-network-age/2010/09/21" target="_blank">neo-venetian phyles</a> ?</span></div>
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</span></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:13px">Dante :</span></span></div>
<div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:13px"><br>
</span></span></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:13px">Thanks for your reply Ze.<div>
<br></div><div>you say :</div><div style="color:rgb(80, 0, 80)"><div><b>"we are more in search of ecovillages/transition tows,</b></div></div><div><div style="color:rgb(80, 0, 80)"><b>to be the glue and means of <u>contact and transport between them</u> in future"</b><br>
<div><br></div></div><div>Are your boats also going upstream or on canals ?</div><div><br></div></div></span><div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal"><br>
</span></div><b>Ze :</b></span></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal"><br>
</span></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal">hi dante.<br>
yes, boat can go upstream and into canal. (maste height is around 14meter).</span></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal"><br>
</span></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:13px">what i am in search of is contact info for such stransition towns and ecovillages.<br>
wwoof could also be of interest but i think most of wwoof places is family run<br>farm which is something very different.<br>we are building up a transport network between communities not between family<br>run places. (we want to help communities survive in the long run)</span><br>
<br>thanks for tips. already know about findhorn (which is a little questionable<br>since its a bit more or less a business place these days) and also know about<br>gendatabase and <a href="http://ic.org/" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 204)" target="_blank">ic.org</a><br>
<br><br></span></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal"><b>Dante :</b></span></div>
<div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal"><br></span></div>
<div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:13px">it somehow reminds me of the historic hanseatic league ... except for the capitalist component :)<div>
<br></div><div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 204)" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://jspivey.wikispaces.com/file/view/hanseatic_league.jpg/71484255/hanseatic_league.jpg" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 204)" target="_blank">https://jspivey.wikispaces.com/file/view/hanseatic_league.jpg/71484255/hanseatic_league.jpg</a></div>
</span></span></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20px"><br></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20px"><span style="font-size:13px;line-height:20px;font-family:sans-serif">note : </span></div>
<div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20px"><span style="font-size:13px;line-height:20px;font-family:sans-serif"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League#Expansion" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League#Expansion</a></span></div>
<i><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><span style="line-height:20px">the League never became a closely-managed formal organisation. </span></font></i></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"><i><br>
</i></span></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><i><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><span style="line-height:20px"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; "><b>Ze :</b></span></span></font></i></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><i><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><span style="line-height:20px"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; "><br>
</span></span></font></i></div><div class="gmail_quote"><i><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><span style="line-height:20px"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; ">thanks,<br>
short remark its not nearby waters, its global project. ie it means we need<br>places on all continents. a few on each continent is a good start (we have some<br>already in south america, the Med and pacific)</span></span></font></i></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><i><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><span style="line-height:20px"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; "><br>
</span></span></font></i></div><div class="gmail_quote"><i><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><span style="line-height:20px"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; "><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">reg hanseatic league.<br>
<br>the hansa transport network and cities is well known in norway. it was a very<br>commercial venture in northern europe, (shipping fish among others stuff from<br>Norway) making some people/companies in northern germany rich and almost had a<br>
monopoly situation which give them much power.<br><br>we are thankfully far away from this and hopefully work far away from such<br>capitalistic way of thinking.<br>we want to help connect them, ship goods and people williing to work for free<br>
betwen communities. and in return keep us with food/repair etc.<br>at least that is our goal. but first we need to finish up the prototype first<br>then expand slowly with some bigger boats up to 15 meter in length.<br><br>
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